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Hunble

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This is an image received from a crew member of the USS Abraham Lincoln.

"What will happen as soon as we get our "going home" orders ..."


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Sphere

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Macleod23 schrieb:
Was wollt ihr damit beweisen, wenn ihr euch diese T-Shirts kauft? Stärkt das eurer Ego oder was?

MfG
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Ich finde die Shirts einfach geil! Problem damit?
Ausserdem kann man ja auch überall diese Scheiss Friedensbuttons kaufen.
 

Franziskaner

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@Hunble:

How do you define "civilization"?

- Kill innocent children, women and men with bombs, bullets and hunger?
- Lying to the whole world including the United Nations?
- annex others countries wealth?
- Send pilots to war who are dumb enough to kill their own allies, even if they have union jacks on their tanks?
- as a result, disequilibrate the whole middle east (do you see the thousands of people in Egypt, Jordan and other countries there demonstrating? Do you see, which flag thei're burning?).

Please tell us, what "civilization" you mean? What is the contribution of the United States to civilization?

Thank you and you're arrogant government for more insecure, more terrorism and more hate. Thank you for 500 more killed innocent civilians until now. Thank you for showing the whole world, that many americans think they are the most important (no, correction: the ONLY important) people on this planet. Thank you for the biggest pollution of all countries. Thank you for making it clear to every little dictator that he needs nuclear weapons so he'll be safe.

To make it clear Hunble: you're a nice guy with a sense of humor i personally like (sometimes) :wink: , but the political and diplomatical maturity of your government and your support for it is very concerning. I'm not frightened of your military power, im frightened what you harm with it. And i'm frightened that you don't realize, what kind of people you have elected to control this power.

Remember my words, we ALL have to pay for this adventure of the US for a long long time.
 

Hunble

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I honestly can not reply to your false statements. How can I answer false questions with an answer that is supported with facts?

I am in chat for the next few hours, if you would enjoy talking my friend.
 

Franziskaner

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Hunble schrieb:
I honestly can not reply to your false statements. How can I answer false questions with an answer that is supported with facts?

I am in chat for the next few hours, if you would enjoy talking my friend.

What statements are false?

Why do you think they are false? Because they do not represent your opinion?

And no, thanks. No Chat today. Some people here have to work :wink:

You know. Earn money and pay taxes, so our "weasels" can pay for the reconstruction of the countries that your "cowboys" are flattening...
 

Hunble

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Franziskaner schrieb:
You know. Earn money and pay taxes, so our "weasels" can pay for the reconstruction of the countries that your "cowboys" are flattening...

Good answer my friend, and I hope to talk with you at a better time.

False questions: "When are you going to stop beating your wife?"

That implies that I have beaten my wife, but without any factual information to support the original question.

The obvious answer is never! But because of how the question was worded, never would imply that I will not stop beating my wife.

You see the logical problem with this type of question?
 

StephiKrycek

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Nur mal so zum Thema(oder auch nicht zum Thema)

Eine Freundin on mir ist grade in den USA, die ist die einzige auf ihrer Schule (oder College,oder wie das da heißt) die GEGEN den Krieg ist...

Schon hart irgendwie...
 

Lyle

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@ hunble
Two Questions.
Which was exactly the false Question Franziskaner made?
Which of the things he implied are wrong?
(I'm sorry if my english grammar is not very good :oops: I'm not in practice of speaking or writing english)
 

Franziskaner

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@Hunble:

ok, let's have a look at the "false" statements...

Franziskaner schrieb:
- Kill innocent children, women and men with bombs, bullets and hunger?

what's false in here? Are there no children, women and men dying in Iraq at this moment? Are they dying because of any other reason than the above ones? Or do you think, there are no innocent iraqis?

- Lying to the whole world including the United Nations?

Where are the reasons for this war? Where are the Al-Quaida Camps in the Iraq? Ok, some are found in Northern Iraq, but hey, this area is controlled by your allied kurds for years...
Where are factories for assembling chemical weapons? Where are the evidences?

- annex others countries wealth?

Beside of rhetoric games - how do you call it, when people come into your country, bomb down your cities, shoot your children and then sell your oil to their own companies to pay others of their companies so they build up the cities again? Well i call it annexation - some other people may call it robbery...

- Send pilots to war who are dumb enough to kill their own allies, even if they have union jacks on their tanks?

Hey, ask your british allies. How many british soldiers have been died in this war? How many of them through accidents and how many through "Friendly fire"?

- as a result, disequilibrate the whole middle east (do you see the thousands of people in Egypt, Jordan and other countries there demonstrating? Do you see, which flag thei're burning?).

So you think the middle east is more stable than before the war? Did you see in the US-TV in how many states the people are burning US Flags? Do you think this people would become a stabilize factor in the Future.

Well, i can't share your optimism... :cry:

Please tell us, what "civilization" you mean? What is the contribution of the United States to civilization?

What's the assumption in this question?

Thank you and you're arrogant government for more insecure, more terrorism and more hate. Thank you for 500 more killed innocent civilians until now. Thank you for showing the whole world, that many americans think they are the most important (no, correction: the ONLY important) people on this planet. Thank you for the biggest pollution of all countries. Thank you for making it clear to every little dictator that he needs nuclear weapons so he'll be safe.

That's just a letter of thanks to your administration. No Question. No assumption. Just my personal opinion. Ignore it, if you want. At least, i know you will...

Remember my words, we ALL have to pay for this adventure of the US for a long long time.

No assumption. Just a prophecy. We'll talk about this in 12 months or so...
 

THG

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sorry Sphere, i think i deleted the url...
but i'll look it up!

kinda strange, isn't it? everybody talks englese...
se habla espanol? 8O
 

THG

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nope, sorry, die url hab ich nicht mehr.
 

faustus

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... also ich kann mich über die t-shirts nicht beschweren, da es ja so ziemlich für jede veranstaltung oder promi (auch massenmörder) eigene shirts gibt ... die wirtschaft lebt ja förmlich von leuten die solche shirts drucken und ob ich es kaufen will oder nicht, weil ich es für geschmacklos halte, kann ich ja eh immer noch selbst entscheiden.
 

ducvietnam

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Also mit dieser tussi lässt sich ja prima propaganda betreiben. Da lss ich mich gerne für den Krieg überzeugen, wenn es noch mehr von denen gibt.
 

zeskwetsch

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Seltsamerweise ist sie bzw. ihre Webseite aber gegen den Krieg. Scheint also stümperhafte Anwendung von Ironie zu sein.
 

semball

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What the hell have the US to do with civilisation???

By the way, the first kind of writing and the first justice system were found in Mesopotamia (Iraq).
I´m sure there´s nearly no one in gods own country who knows this..

I hope it´ll be a long bloody war in this "out-of-civilisation"-area, but it´s a great pity about the poor American soldiers who have to die for the lies of the Bush-administration.

Rest in peace & nice greetz to the bereaved
semball
 

Hunble

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Franziskaner schrieb:
@Hunble:

ok, let's have a look at the "false" statements...

Franziskaner schrieb:
- Kill innocent children, women and men with bombs, bullets and hunger?

Members of the American military follow very strict rules and regulations. If any Iraq civilian has been killed in violation of those laws, the soldiers involved will be arrested and go to Court Martial.

Any member of the Iraq military that has violated the rules of war, will also be arrested and charged with war crimes.

- Lying to the whole world including the United Nations?

President Bush has been very open and honest. I have posted his exact words many times on this website.

Unlike Clinton, President Bush will tell you exactly what he will do, and THEN HE DOES IT!

Iraq refused to destroy their illegal biological, chemical and nuclear weapons.

If Iraq did not destroy those weapons, AMERICA WOULD, and that was the only choice Iraq had.

- annex others countries wealth?

The American military has worked very hard to protect the natural resources that BELONG TO THE IRAQ people.

Once the wealth from these natural resources has been returned to the people of Iraq, each and every person living in Iraq will profit.

- Send pilots to war who are dumb enough to kill their own allies, even if they have union jacks on their tanks?

How many automobile accidents happened in Germany in the last 2 weeks?

This is dangerous business and accidents will happen.

- as a result, disequilibrate the whole middle east (do you see the thousands of people in Egypt, Jordan and other countries there demonstrating? Do you see, which flag thei're burning?).

When has the Middle East been stable? How could it get any worse?

Please tell us, what "civilization" you mean? What is the contribution of the United States to civilization?

Think about it......

Remember my words, we ALL have to pay for this adventure of the US for a long long time.

Last time I looked, Americans are paying for this war at the cost of $75 billion and we are the ones risking our lives.

We are the ones supplying food and water to the people of Iraq.

We are the ones that will spend billions of dollars to re-build the nation of Iraq.



What the hell did you do, other than cry?
 

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